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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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parts of the world fight againt U.S. trade policies, "Western Ways" etc. We are religiously tolerant. Down the line majority could come into power and base the world govenment off of different values.


Yep. Anything could happen.

And?

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world communism could be decided by majority to be the best policy for the world. the richer population is lesser than the poorer population.


Yeah. Anything's possible.

What's your point? Disaster is always possible in any endeavor.



The point is that if disaster were to happen or if government took a turn toward crazy there isn't another new world for Christopher Columbus to find for a freedom loving & peace loving group to make a new sane free world. I suggest you have a space shuttle or get prepared to live in hell.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here is a Ron Paul article on the N.A.U.:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n.....E_ID=52684
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Here is a Ron Paul article on the N.A.U.:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n.....E_ID=52684


The media should be all over this.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A noted resident of the fringe talks about a highway being part of a huge sinister conspiracy in an article on a website known for its absurdity and bias.

No, i don't think the media 'should' be all over it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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A noted resident of the fringe talks about a highway being part of a huge sinister conspiracy in an article on a website known for its absurdity and bias.

No, i don't think the media 'should' be all over it.

They should be 100% all over the issue "The North American Union" as a whole and issues relating to it.

Not the source.
Not the website.

If we can give an ex drunk and drug addict saying "nappy head hoes" 24/7 coverage for a week I think we can do better than one/two coverages to familiarize/educate the citizens about the North American Union.

The more people know the better. If it's a good idea it will be realized sooner. If it is a bad idea it will realized sooner.

If we had better media they would be all over it.

However I could be stuck in the old thinking of thinking the public wants to be readily informed and familiarized of what's going on in government policy. But then again that's probably just me hanging on to old ways thinking the media has some kind of inherent duty to do that.

I keep forgetting like you say, "Times Change."

but unfortunately sometimes for the worse


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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However I could be stuck in the old thinking of thinking the public wants to be readily informed and familiarized of what's going on in government policy.


Well, sort of. You're stuck in the very common way of thinking in that you believe the public at large is intelligent enough, educated enough, and has a long enough attention span to understand and care about such matters.

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But then again that's probably just me hanging on to old ways thinking the media has some kind of inherent duty to do that.


You may believe that they have that duty, but they don't necessarily share that view.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
exton wrote:
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However I could be stuck in the old thinking of thinking the public wants to be readily informed and familiarized of what's going on in government policy.


Well, sort of. You're stuck in the very common way of thinking in that you believe the public at large is intelligent enough, educated enough, and has a long enough attention span to understand and care about such matters.

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But then again that's probably just me hanging on to old ways thinking the media has some kind of inherent duty to do that.


You may believe that they have that duty, but they don't necessarily share that view.


well you got me there exton.

I am finding you just might be right about the first,however i am still very optimistic.

and I am beginning to believe you are more than likely right about the second.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Here is a Ron Paul article on the N.A.U.:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n.....E_ID=52684


The media should be all over this.


It makes me sad because he is so un-tainted. He states the obvious, and nobody listens.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
What he states is a conspiracy theory, and he does it in the wrong way. Of course no one listens to him - he talks about the same things that lunatics do.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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A noted resident of the fringe talks about a highway being part of a huge sinister conspiracy in an article on a website known for its absurdity and bias.

No, i don't think the media 'should' be all over it.


No, I disagree. The media should be all over the media for not being all over this. Hence the alternative information. Ron Paul can not be elected out of office, so don't just dismiss him with the wave of a hand and declare him to be from the "Fringe" some peoples fringe is anothers center. He is a US Rep. from the 14th District of Texas. He is the Chair on so many committees, and has never voted stupidly on any bill. Why is he not on anything but Lou Dobbs? The reality is that you are on the fringe if you think that a North American Union will be better for the country. What do you suggest after that, the capital of the Americas be Washington D.C.?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Ron Paul can not be elected out of office, so don't just dismiss him with the wave of a hand and declare him to be from the "Fringe" some peoples fringe is anothers center. He is a US Rep. from the 14th District of Texas.


Gee whiz, i guess i should respect his opinion!

But then i remember such lauded public servants as senator ted stevens, and i remember that political office is not an indication of competance, education, or even relevence.

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He is the Chair on so many committees, and has never voted stupidly on any bill.


That depends on whether or not you agree with him.

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Why is he not on anything but Lou Dobbs?


Probably for the same reason that my house rep isn't on anything at all - no one cares about most house reps.

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The reality is that you are on the fringe if you think that a North American Union will be better for the country.


World unification is inevitable, if progress is to continue.

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What do you suggest after that, the capital of the Americas be Washington D.C.?


I would suggest that a new location be chosen or built for the governmental operations of the NAU. It would probably be in the united states, because the US is in the geographic center of the continent.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Your passivity astounds me, on this one, Exton.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm not opposed to a north american union, so i don't see the need to get up in arms about the idea itself.

I, for one, am surprised at how many people really believe that what we have now (or anytihng like it) is a stable state of affairs.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
exton wrote:
I'm not opposed to a north american union, so i don't see the need to get up in arms about the idea itself.

I, for one, am surprised at how many people really believe that what we have now (or anytihng like it) is a stable state of affairs.


Which is my point. Why compound the problem. What you suggest cannot happen now. We are not ready as a society or a government. I do agree with you that a World Council is our only sanctuary to advance as a species. Just not right now, not under these circumstances.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
What about these circumstances makes you think it's a bad idea?
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