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Xerxes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
Just because they aren't looking for a cure for syphilis doesn't mean it won't save people.


Hey, you got an avatar!! Looks just like you!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Which you don't know because none of us has any idea what the research was about, which is why there is the if in my statement above.

Do you like is Xerxes? I plann to use it to distract my enemies, it was originally a picture of me, but apparently pixels can't handle that much beauty.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Which you don't know because none of us has any idea what the research was about, which is why there is the if in my statement above.


You can only make decisions based on the information you have. I think it's perfectly reasonable to come to the conclusion that their experiments were unethical, given what we know. Like any conclusion, that could change.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Which you don't know because none of us has any idea what the research was about, which is why there is the if in my statement above.

Do you like is Xerxes? I plann to use it to distract my enemies, it was originally a picture of me, but apparently pixels can't handle that much beauty.


Or, that much horse shit LoL Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
And I think it's perfectly reasonable to say they were unethical for their racism, and remain ambigous about the rest.

Anyways, maths c assignment time!!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
homework is for sissies.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I want to get into Law, homework is for those who want to pass.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
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Okay, sure, read the rest of my post. Don't ask me to explain what they were trying to do, I don't know.


Killing people for medical research is not ethically defensible when there are no lives depending on the research, as is the case here.


You don't know that there was not, neither do I, I was just pointing out my stance that medical research which sacrifices some isn't morally reprehensible in and of itself.


if the doctors are so passionate about the research and sacrificing to save the greater population they can sacrifice their families and friends.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
thelast007 wrote:
Lester wrote:
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Lester wrote:
Okay, sure, read the rest of my post. Don't ask me to explain what they were trying to do, I don't know.


Killing people for medical research is not ethically defensible when there are no lives depending on the research, as is the case here.


You don't know that there was not, neither do I, I was just pointing out my stance that medical research which sacrifices some isn't morally reprehensible in and of itself.


if the doctors are so passionate about the research and sacrificing to save the greater population they can sacrifice their families and friends.


It would skew the results of the tests.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
No, it wouldn't. Syphilis doesn't discriminate on the basis of familial connections.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Researchers do, do you really think they could view the situation objectively?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rulers, centrifuges, and weight scales don't suffer emotional trauma.

And like they said: if it's really worth it, it shouldn't bother the researchers.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
No clinical trials are conducted with relatives of the conductors in either batches, it ruins it's credibility.

Two people can look at the same ruler and see a different number, if your not objective you can't do your job as a scientist properly.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:

Two people can look at the same ruler and see a different number,


Not a digital one.

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if your not objective you can't do your job as a scientist properly.


You're right.

So, can they use your family instead?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sure, go ahead, I don't particularly like my family.
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