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Nesta13Maldini
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:33 am    Post subject: Palestine Reply with quote
Why in the world isn't anyone talking about Palestine? I mean this is probably the worst war out there IMO because it's "the end of the Palestinian people" and this is all happening in front of our eyes.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Palestine Reply with quote
Nesta13Maldini wrote:
Why in the world isn't anyone talking about Palestine? I mean this is probably the worst war out there IMO because it's "the end of the Palestinian people" and this is all happening in front of our eyes.


no one in this country cares about palestine. israel controls our media in the same manner that bush does (a.k.a. the media is the propaganda wing of the zionists and bush) then when you bring up the injustice, people in this country don't care because "the palestinians area buch of terrorists" and we all know that "terrorists" deserve to live under an illegal occupation and be subjected to genocide.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Actually people are talking about Palestine. That is one of the top arguements brought against Israel.

Too bad that Palestine is just a myth and that Palestinans are just Arabs. "Palestine" has never actually existed as a country. Palestinan culture is indistinguishable from Jordanian culture. The truth is that 'Palestine' is no more real than Never-Never Land. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jew, smashed the Temple and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine.

What would you suggest that Israel does with the palestinans? They do nothing but attack the Israeli army and blow themselves up to injure innocent Israeli citizens. They even elected a know terrorist group, Hamas, to govern them. Hamas doesn't recognize Israel's right to exist. How does Israel talk with them when they want to blow Israel up?

And how come the Palestinans are thought of as peaceful people, yet whenever Israel gives up land it is the Palestinans who immediately shoot rockets from that piece of land into Israel?

And your media is controlled by bush arguement is a total fallacy. There is a known left-wing bias in our media which paints Bush and Israel as the bad guy. Please read up on it and then try and present that arguement.

So, please educate yourself about the Israel conflict before you start throwing accusations around about how Israel is terrible.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I might be off a little but nothing that huge... so bare with me on this one Embarassed


Cantskate wrote:
What would you suggest that Israel does with the palestinans? They do nothing but attack the Israeli army and blow themselves up to injure innocent Israeli citizens. They even elected a know terrorist group, Hamas, to govern them. Hamas doesn't recognize Israel's right to exist. How does Israel talk with them when they want to blow Israel up?


Actually they have talked... the latest political settlement was when Arafat was in power. The proposal was supported by virtually the entire world, but the U.S government was too powerful and blocked the proposal.



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And how come the Palestinans are thought of as peaceful people, yet whenever Israel gives up land it is the Palestinans who immediately shoot rockets from that piece of land into Israel?


This is the, around, 37th year of a harsh, brutal and vicious occupation. Supported Unilaterally by the United States, constant terror and atrocities. Suppose Palestinians say "Well, we are under terrorist attacks for 37 years, therefore we have a right to carry out suicide bombings..." do you accept this? Nobody would accept that so why does everyone accept Israeli claim to be doing it? After all, they are the Military Occupiars... Palestine isn't occuping Israel. People who defend suicide bombings, which there are very few, don't have a leg to stand on and those who defend the Israeli atrocites, including the U.S government, most intellectual opinion... good bit of the West generally, They don't have a leg to stand on and they have a much weaker position.




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And your media is controlled by bush arguement is a total fallacy. There is a known left-wing bias in our media which paints Bush and Israel as the bad guy. Please read up on it and then try and present that arguement.


HAHA what have you been watching? Of course they paint Bush and Israel as the bad guy because THEY ARE! As soon as bush took power he decided to send Israel with the best high tech apache helicopters, that were/are being used to attack innocent civlian homes. I think your the one who needs to do the research on this. You should buy the Intifada book written by an idependent writer that traveled to the Gaza Strip, West Bank, and Israel to see what people thought about it. As a matter of fact the Israeli people recognize what the Israeli government is doing.




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So, please educate yourself about the Israel conflict before you start throwing accusations around about how Israel is terrible.


I think YOU should be the one to educate yourself about how terrible Israel really is.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cantskate wrote:
Actually people are talking about Palestine. That is one of the top arguements brought against Israel.

Too bad that Palestine is just a myth and that Palestinans are just Arabs. "Palestine" has never actually existed as a country. Palestinan culture is indistinguishable from Jordanian culture. The truth is that 'Palestine' is no more real than Never-Never Land. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jew, smashed the Temple and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine.

What would you suggest that Israel does with the palestinans? They do nothing but attack the Israeli army and blow themselves up to injure innocent Israeli citizens. They even elected a know terrorist group, Hamas, to govern them. Hamas doesn't recognize Israel's right to exist. How does Israel talk with them when they want to blow Israel up?

And how come the Palestinans are thought of as peaceful people, yet whenever Israel gives up land it is the Palestinans who immediately shoot rockets from that piece of land into Israel?

And your media is controlled by bush arguement is a total fallacy. There is a known left-wing bias in our media which paints Bush and Israel as the bad guy. Please read up on it and then try and present that arguement.

So, please educate yourself about the Israel conflict before you start throwing accusations around about how Israel is terrible.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
[urlhttp://ifamericansknew.org/

some facts about the most recent conflict.[/url]
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