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chevydriver1123
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
His religion means jack next to shit to me but he appears to be another willing lap dog of Fallwell, Dobson, Robertson and Donahue.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
WOW, i know there are a lot of misconceptions around his religion, but that is truly ridiculous to claim that the church thinks that "black people can't get to heaven."
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
rynln53 wrote:
WOW, i know there are a lot of misconceptions around his religion, but that is truly ridiculous to claim that the church thinks that "black people can't get to heaven."



The Book of Mormon (1820)

The first reference in Latter Day Saint writings describing dark skin as a curse and mark from God refers to Ancient Americans, rather than African Americans. The Book of Mormon, believed to be translated in the late 1820s, states the following about Lamanites, believed to be ancestors of some present day Native Americans:

And [God] had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them. And thus saith the Lord God; I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people, save they shall repent of their iniquities." (2 Nephi 5:21, emphasis added)
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Lester
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joeseph Smith is fun.
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rynln53
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
in the bible it said that cain was marked with black skin, and the book of mormon never says that black people cant go to heaven, that is ridiculous
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Lester
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
No, he was marked with the mark of cain, no-one said that was black.
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rynln53
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
those who follow the bible say that africans came from Ham's decendants when he had children with a Canaanite woman, adn he and his offspring were cursed because of it, because she was black, so says the bible
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Lester
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The bible doesn't say they were black, the people who wrote the bible were arabian for heavens sake!

They didn't even know there were black people.
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exton
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
The bible doesn't say they were black, the people who wrote the bible were arabian for heavens sake!

They didn't even know there were black people.


I think they did. The world was small, but it wasn't THAT small.
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Lester
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
When europeans first met black people they thought they weren't humans, they thought they were another species, animals.
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rynln53
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
i am not saying the bible is bad, i am just trying to counter the bigotous point angainst the book of mormon by drawing similarities in the bible, neither book says black people are bad, they both do say that balck skin was used by god to "mark" that a curse was upon some one, but not as a curse itself. Either way, who cares? Christianity preaches peace, which is good.
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