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Should U.S. Taxpayer Money Fund Extaordinary Rendition?
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Xerxes
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: Intelligence Gathering Or Torture Taxi? Reply with quote
Extraordinary rendition and irregular rendition are terms used to describe the extrajudicial transfer of a person from one state to another, and "Torture by proxy "is used by some critics to describe extraordinary rendition by the United States, with regard to the alleged transfer of suspected terrorists to countries known to employ harsh interrogation techniques that may rise to the level of torture. Critics have alleged the use of torture has occurred with the knowledge or acquiescence of the United States. However United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice stated in an April 2006 radio interview that the United States does not transfer people to places where they know they will be tortured

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....4973.shtml


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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can't pick and choose where your taxes go, the better poll question would be "should the U.S. take part in extraordinary rendition".
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
You can't pick and choose where your taxes go, the better poll question would be "should the U.S. take part in extraordinary rendition".


I think most Americans are more concerned with their tax $ than the morality of it...maybe, I am wrong
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, but still, bad poll question.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
Yes, but still, bad poll question.


Well, I'm sure you already know my feelings on the topic. OK, New poll question: Should the US partake in Extaordinary Rendition?
A)
B)
C)
D)

Make up your own reasons for and against.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
no. if we decided not to do it does it make it better for us to send them somewhere so they can do it.

that's like a mother against spanking but sends the child to the grandmother's house to get spanked.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What is most interesting is that Cheney and Co. were bitching about Pelosi going to Syria for diplomatic reasons. Yet they can deal with Syria in the dead of night to send people there to be tortured. The hypocrisy!

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Xerxes wrote:
What is most interesting is that Cheney and Co. were bitching about Pelosi going to Syria for diplomatic reasons. Yet they can deal with Syria in the dead of night to send people to be tortured. The hypocrisy!


we do not like syria because they are terrorist i doubt we send people there to be questioned. plus we don't torture, that shit is wrong and mc cain definately made us clearly ban it
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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plus we don't torture, that shit is wrong and mc cain definately made us clearly ban it


You're an idiot. Of course the CIA tortures people. That's the problem - they shouldn't be doing it!
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
exton wrote:
little lai wrote:
plus we don't torture, that shit is wrong and mc cain definately made us clearly ban it


You're an idiot. Of course the CIA tortures people. That's the problem - they shouldn't be doing it!


mccain made sure that congress banned it and it became law. why would they pass a law that was being broke and that would be immediately be broke after it was made law?
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Because they thought otherwise, and/or it's an empty gesture to get votes.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
exton wrote:
little lai wrote:
plus we don't torture, that shit is wrong and mc cain definately made us clearly ban it


You're an idiot. Of course the CIA tortures people. That's the problem - they shouldn't be doing it!


wa ter board
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Man wins suit in rendition case:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/.....21,00.html
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Secret sites everywhere:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk.....89,00.html

A "Black Site: in Afghanistan:
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, I think people should answer this carefully because buying things that are made in China and other places with bad human rights issues isn't terribly different.

I do realize there are differences in this case, and a lot more injustice comes from it, but still, enslaving people to work for you and only paying cents a day isn't the greatest thing in the world.
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