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Lester
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: HIV cure suppressed? Reply with quote
In 1990, at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine, in New York City, scientists (Steve Kaali, M.D., and others) discovered a way to neutralize the HIV virus in vitro (this means the blood is removed or the skin is penetrated). Dr. Bob Beck, a Doctor of Science (scientist), took this BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION technology a step further and developed a device to do the same job, but in vivo (meaning the blood isn't removed or the skin isn't penetrated).

Here is the URL for Bob Beck's lecture notes:

http://www.teslatech.com/beck/

Hats off to Steve Kaali and the others for creating the BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION technology, and to Bob Beck for making it affordable (less than $200). And hats off to the people using this technology to neutralize HIV and many other organism-based diseases.

Here is the URL for one of the places selling the device:

http://www.sharinghealth.com/p.....ctric.html

And here is the schematics for the device:

http://www.sharinghealth.com/site%20map.html

For more information, search the internet for these keywords:

BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION
BECK PROTOCOL

I am a researcher, not a patient, in case anyone is wondering, although I have used the device to help out with colds.

BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION technology is one of the cures for HIV that was suppressed for a long time because the people responsible for suppressing the technology thought that money was more important than people, rather than thinking people are more important than money.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oy vey.

I can assure you that that's full of shit. It won't cure HIV or anything else.

The device? It plays a 4hz tone. A noise that you can't hear, basically. It says that right on the schematic.
(In case anyone doesn't know: no, a 4hz tone won't cure you or anyting else of anything)

Unless i'm reading it wrong and you don't plug headphones into the headphone jacks. Maybe just wires that you hold onto, or something.
In that case, it won't do anything at all: the maximum possible output voltage is 27 volts, which isn't enough to cause a current to flow through your body.

Even if you did use a high enough voltage, oscillating at 4 hz, guess what'll happen? You'll get electrocuted. The HIV viruses will be just fine.

There's something especially telling on the "Build Your own" portion of the site:

"Note: These data are for theoretical, informational and instructional purposes only and are not to be construed as medical advice. Consult with your licensed medical practitioner. Hundreds have been built successfully if duplicated exactly as shown."


You know why that's included?
So that this guy/the operators of the site won't get their collective asses kicked by the FDA. It's a federal crime to promote cures that don't work. You'll see a similar label on many "herbal remedies" and the like.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just pasted and copied Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
I just pasted and copied Razz


I can tell.

But straight off your headline,

If a cure to HIV was found, supressed my ass, in a capitilist society?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Treatments make more money than cures.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
Treatments make more money than cures.


Yah but do you think the blok who would come out with the cure is living off treatment salary?

And Africa doesnt take treatment, thats a hole untapped market.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ever seen the movie 'the constant gardener'??

Or read the book by John le Carre?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
Ever seen the movie 'the constant gardener'??

Or read the book by John le Carre?


No i havent.

MY point is, the company coming out with the cure. Isn't making loads of cash off treatments, no blow to them if the treatments loose income... Thats capitalism.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
But the companies that are making the treatments, huge pharmecutical companies with enormous amounts of power, do you really think they'd allow the cure to get out?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
But the companies that are making the treatments, huge pharmecutical companies with enormous amounts of power, do you really think they'd allow the cure to get out?


Here's how you can tell that big pharm isn't hiding cures:

At what rate do the children, friends, and family of employees (at all levels) of pharmaceutical companies contract and die from incurable diseases?

The same rate as everyone else.

The folks who run big pharm may like profit, but they're also human. If they had cures, they'd certainly use them for their own ends. And that would be noticeable.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
when was the last time the head of a huge pharmecutical company died of AIDS?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
That came out kind of critical, I think you made a very good point, I'm just wondering if there has been a case like the one I mentioned.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
I'm just wondering if there has been a case like the one I mentioned.


Beats me. Probably not.

But then, how many pharm ceo's contract HIV in the first place? Not too many, i'd imagine. In america in general, HIV is a problem, but not a plague.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Which could easily let these CEO's slide under the radar no?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
Which could easily let these CEO's slide under the radar no?


No, because you don't need to examine individual cases. You can examine the statistics of the matter. If they have access to some super-drugs that the rest of us aren't getting, that'll show up as a substantial variation from the normal likelihood of their contracting and dying of disease (adjusted for their age, location, income bracket, etc).
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