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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Do they plan wars? That is by definition a conspiracy: a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful


Of course it's a conspiracy if they're planning to do something unlawful or harmful.

But are they? You don't know.

Moreover, i specified 'world wide' conspiracy for a reason. Regular conspiracies are a dime a dozen. Real conspiracies - you know, trying to conquer the world through the means you specified - aren't all that common (if they exist(ed) at all).

I don't doubt that select groups of individuals are cooking up nefarious plots.

What i doubt is what you posted: a global conspiracy of the sort you described.


That is correct, nobody knows. Nobobody ever will, I am quite convinced.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Something else that you mentioned....Singularity based energy, like what they are working on at Lucerne. If I am not mistaken, that is the beginning of a black hole. How is that safer than nuclear.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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That is correct, nobody knows. Nobobody ever will, I am quite convinced.


Probably not.

Which is a very good reason that jumping to hasty - and utterly sensationalistic - conclusions is a bad idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, at the LHD at CERN, one of the ideas they're going to be testing is string theory. According to one particular varient of string theory, the energy levels used at LHD will be large enough to create microsingularities.

Maybe it'll work. Maybe it won't. No one knows.

There's another (better supported) idea that black holes sort of...evaporate. Because of the way they, and quantum mechanics, work, they leak energy, losing mass as they do so. The emount of energy they leak grows as the black hole gets smaller. And so eventually, it just vanishes.

A microsingularity should vanish rather quickly.

If that idea is correct, then a singularity-based generator would be the 'best' one possible - you could use it to directly convert mass to energy. If you feed mass into it at the right rate, you can keep it at a nice size and use the energy that it leaks.

I never said it was safer, though. Depending on the size of the singularity, it could conceiveably destroy the entire world. I really don't know, though.

But that's a long way off, so i'm not going to worry about it.

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Something else that you mentioned....Singularity based energy, like what they are working on at Lucerne. If I am not mistaken, that is the beginning of a black hole. How is that safer than nuclear.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
There should be more classical villains, I'm gonna start growing a moustache just so I can twirl it.
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