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exton
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joshua1978 wrote:

No you fucking dumbass it's called don't throw rocks when your house is made glass. Stop pointing fingers at Bush like he is the first dictator that has ever came to power.


I don't think dictator is an apt term for dubya.

And my criticism of him can be summed up as this: he's really, really incompetant.

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Clinton did his share of damage to except he got away with it since people lied for him and yes he did launch a war against his own citizens.


I believe the term you used was "war against american freedom".
If you have anything to back up that claim, i'll listen.
Otherwise, it sounds like bullshit rhtetoric.

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Ummm let's see here why don't we have the media make up some bullshit storie about teen violence to push the issue of gun control so we can ban guns.


Uhm. Sure, yeah.
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PeaceLoveandRockNRoll
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joshua1978 wrote:
exton wrote:
Joshua1978 wrote:
People may not like Bush but at least he wasn't worried about what was under his desk instead of what was on it. Like a certain president we know about.


I'll have you know that bubba did work WHILE getting blowjobs.
(that's not a joke; he really did)

But that's besides the point: no matter who was jacking him off, he did his job, and he did it well. Anything else is irrelevent.

And the degree to which dubya concentrates on his job is highly questionable, to say the least.

Quote:

Also what is up with these Dems calling him a liar all the time.


Well, he is a liar. It's hard to deny that.

Quote:

You know the whole spew about Bush Lied and Children died yada yada. These Dems are attacking Bush for being a liar but there favorite President Clinton lied all the time. All they could do was defend him left and right.


I don't really care who my president fucks while he's in office, and so i don't really care if he lies about it either.

I do, however, care when my president lies about policy decisions. Especially very important policy decisions.
Kinda like war.

Quote:

Also Bush might be wagin a war that people feel is unjust and illegal but you know atleast he wasn't waging a war against American freedom like Clinton and the rest of his cronies did.


Wow. That's...really detached from reality.


Quote:

I would rather have him there than some left-wing socialist biggot anyday. I would rather someone pretend to fight for their country than do nothing at all.


So...the entirety of you case for supporting dubya is based on lies and misleading generalizations about the last president?

Or, put another way, your argument consists entirely of:
"B-b-but clinton!"

That's weak. That's really, really weak.

In fact, i think it qualifies as total failure on your part.


No you fucking dumbass it's called don't throw rocks when your house is made glass. Stop pointing fingers at Bush like he is the first dictator that has ever came to power. Clinton did his share of damage to except he got away with it since people lied for him and yes he did launch a war against his own citizens. Ummm let's see here why don't we have the media make up some bullshit storie about teen violence to push the issue of gun control so we can ban guns.


1. Whose favorite President was Clinton? My favorite President was FDR.

2. Exton correctly summed up your entire argument as "Bush can't be bad because Clinton did bad stuff too." I didn't like Clinton, not that I was all that politically aware at the time, being 11 when he left office. But he didn't invade any foreign countries on false pretenses. He shouldn't have lied about his sex life, but nobody should have asked. Fuck, Bush's damn daughters could suck his dick while he works for all I care, if it'd get him off his stupid evangelical moral high horse. I care what he does for the country, not what he does privately. Everyone in Europe laughed up a storm when we freaked at Clinton having an affair, they all know it's normal for men in power. All of which ignored the point that you have yet to advance a reason why Bush was a good President, only a list of sketchy reasons why if you look at it the right way, Clinton was kinda, sorta almost as bad. Oh, and if you were President and Columbine happened, wouldn't you feel compelled to address gun issues in SOME way? It's not like the guy tried to repeal the second amendment...

3. Congratulations, your off topic and irrelevant post succeeded in making me stop discussing Bush to talk about Clinton for a little while. I thought about deleting all that crap since it continues to not be pertinent because nobody here has said Clinton was a great president, but I think it shows your sneakiness and manipulative tactics better if I leave it. Enjoy.
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Kels
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joshua1978 wrote:
exton wrote:
Joshua1978 wrote:
People may not like Bush but at least he wasn't worried about what was under his desk instead of what was on it. Like a certain president we know about.


I'll have you know that bubba did work WHILE getting blowjobs.
(that's not a joke; he really did)

But that's besides the point: no matter who was jacking him off, he did his job, and he did it well. Anything else is irrelevent.

And the degree to which dubya concentrates on his job is highly questionable, to say the least.

Quote:

Also what is up with these Dems calling him a liar all the time.


Well, he is a liar. It's hard to deny that.

Quote:

You know the whole spew about Bush Lied and Children died yada yada. These Dems are attacking Bush for being a liar but there favorite President Clinton lied all the time. All they could do was defend him left and right.


I don't really care who my president fucks while he's in office, and so i don't really care if he lies about it either.

I do, however, care when my president lies about policy decisions. Especially very important policy decisions.
Kinda like war.

Quote:

Also Bush might be wagin a war that people feel is unjust and illegal but you know atleast he wasn't waging a war against American freedom like Clinton and the rest of his cronies did.


Wow. That's...really detached from reality.


Quote:

I would rather have him there than some left-wing socialist biggot anyday. I would rather someone pretend to fight for their country than do nothing at all.


So...the entirety of you case for supporting dubya is based on lies and misleading generalizations about the last president?

Or, put another way, your argument consists entirely of:
"B-b-but clinton!"

That's weak. That's really, really weak.

In fact, i think it qualifies as total failure on your part.


No you fucking dumbass it's called don't throw rocks when your house is made glass. Stop pointing fingers at Bush like he is the first dictator that has ever came to power. Clinton did his share of damage to except he got away with it since people lied for him and yes he did launch a war against his own citizens. Ummm let's see here why don't we have the media make up some bullshit storie about teen violence to push the issue of gun control so we can ban guns.


uhhhh. So, you'd like to compare Clinton backing the ban of semiautomatic assault weapons in say .... '94 to a war on America? How so? If you knew anything about this issue then you wouldn't have even opened your mouth.
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rogerr
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kels wrote:
rogerr wrote:
JesusLopezViejo wrote:
Docsmitter wrote:
rogerr wrote:
PeaceLoveandRockNRoll wrote:
rogerr wrote:
Docsmitter wrote:
rogerr wrote:
Liberal media has nothing to do with it, and I think your response kind of proves my point.


Are you talking sense child? Media has nothing to do with it? THIS HERE MY FRIEND!!! IS A FOrm of media, you get allll your information from media.


Another conservative that simply cannot understand simple english. The media has nothing to do with my views about the hatred spewed by nut job conservatives. You nut jobs at least should make an attempt at honest, but I understand that it is simply not in your make up.


dude, this board has been pretty light on the flaming until very recently. While I see your point, and it would be hard to argue that this website is part of some "liberal media conspiracy," you should really try and keep things more civilized than that. That said, Docsmitter, I think his point is that I don't need to read the New York Times or listen to NPR to think Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are hateful, I just have to listen to THEM.


Unless we liberals are willing to return the neo con fire with even more zeal than that with which it was delivered we will never get our message out. We cannot play by one set of rules while the conservatives play by no rules. We must attack them for what they are. Dishonest, word twisting, bigoted, anti U.S. constitution money grubbers.


Mos tof the so called moderates in the republican party still followed the Dumbya line 90% of the time. The one who didnt, Lincoln Chaffee, got booted and I suspect he will run again, next time as a democrat or independent. I dont think the right wing will allow any moderates th have a significant voice.

Your views Are me left then your crooked dick. I am not argueing that this website is liberal media. I disclaim that you can deny media as having any effect on your views... HAHAHHAH conservative money grabbers! HA HA!!!


This forum is as much unbiased as a forum can possibly be.

The conservative corner is moderated by you, a conservative.

The liberal corner is moderated by punky, a liberal.

The debate forum is modded by a lib and a con.

I myself am a liberal...I think the current administration gives conservatism a bad name.

They are totally off mark on the whole "limited government" issue and are spending billions on a war that is on par with or worse than Vietnam.

I'm sure I could be happier with a competent administration instead of what we have now, whether it is conservative or liberal. But what we got going now is just ridiculous no matter which side of the fence you hail from.


The conservatives of today are nothing like the conservatives of the past. Conservatism is now based upon telling other people how they must comply with the edicts of their christian beliefs. The conservatives of the past believed people should be left alone to form their own decisions on their lives. Conservatism has been hi jacked by religious zealots who are not terribly different than the muslim crazies that the christian crazies are trying to kill.


x20 on the whole conservatives of today spill.
While there are those Reps. that tend to stay true to their conservative ranks, many, especially in the current admin. have mutated into creatures of mass destruction called Neo-Cons. But that's nothing we didn't already know ...

To gain power again, the Republicans WILL have to purge themselves of these intruders of their grand ole party.
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Noureddin
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
"G.W. Bush"

To put this post simple.

Bush is a puppet.

You can say:
"He's the President of United States of amercia! How can he be a puppet!"

So, called "President" Bush is just a Lighting Rod. If you somehow don't know what a freaking lighting rod is and what it does then...



*A lightning rod (or lightning protector) is a metal strip or rod, usually of copper or similar conductive material, used as part of lightning safety to protect tall or isolated structures (such as the roof of a building or the mast of a vessel) from lightning damage. Its formal name is lightning finial or air terminal. Sometimes, the system is informally referred to as a lightning conductor, lightning arrester, or lightning discharger; however, these terms actually refer to lightning protection systems in general or specific components within them.

**The term 'lightning rod' is also used as a metaphorical term to describe those who attract controversy."

Thank you Wikipedia!

*The main meaning of lighting rod... or the actaul rod.
**The way I meant when saying "Bush is a Lighting Rod"

So, In short. Bush just takes the hate, mostly just the publicity.

If something bad happened. Like a war being started pointlessly. Thye blame it on bush.

Pretty much a Lighting Rod. The lighting hits the rod... not the house.
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rogerr
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
rogerr wrote:
Kels wrote:
rogerr wrote:
JesusLopezViejo wrote:
Docsmitter wrote:
rogerr wrote:
PeaceLoveandRockNRoll wrote:
rogerr wrote:
Docsmitter wrote:
rogerr wrote:
Liberal media has nothing to do with it, and I think your response kind of proves my point.


Are you talking sense child? Media has nothing to do with it? THIS HERE MY FRIEND!!! IS A FOrm of media, you get allll your information from media.


Another conservative that simply cannot understand simple english. The media has nothing to do with my views about the hatred spewed by nut job conservatives. You nut jobs at least should make an attempt at honest, but I understand that it is simply not in your make up.


dude, this board has been pretty light on the flaming until very recently. While I see your point, and it would be hard to argue that this website is part of some "liberal media conspiracy," you should really try and keep things more civilized than that. That said, Docsmitter, I think his point is that I don't need to read the New York Times or listen to NPR to think Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are hateful, I just have to listen to THEM.


Unless we liberals are willing to return the neo con fire with even more zeal than that with which it was delivered we will never get our message out. We cannot play by one set of rules while the conservatives play by no rules. We must attack them for what they are. Dishonest, word twisting, bigoted, anti U.S. constitution money grubbers.


Mos tof the so called moderates in the republican party still followed the Dumbya line 90% of the time. The one who didnt, Lincoln Chaffee, got booted and I suspect he will run again, next time as a democrat or independent. I dont think the right wing will allow any moderates th have a significant voice.

Your views Are me left then your crooked dick. I am not argueing that this website is liberal media. I disclaim that you can deny media as having any effect on your views... HAHAHHAH conservative money grabbers! HA HA!!!


This forum is as much unbiased as a forum can possibly be.

The conservative corner is moderated by you, a conservative.

The liberal corner is moderated by punky, a liberal.

The debate forum is modded by a lib and a con.

I myself am a liberal...I think the current administration gives conservatism a bad name.

They are totally off mark on the whole "limited government" issue and are spending billions on a war that is on par with or worse than Vietnam.

I'm sure I could be happier with a competent administration instead of what we have now, whether it is conservative or liberal. But what we got going now is just ridiculous no matter which side of the fence you hail from.


The conservatives of today are nothing like the conservatives of the past. Conservatism is now based upon telling other people how they must comply with the edicts of their christian beliefs. The conservatives of the past believed people should be left alone to form their own decisions on their lives. Conservatism has been hi jacked by religious zealots who are not terribly different than the muslim crazies that the christian crazies are trying to kill.


x20 on the whole conservatives of today spill.
While there are those Reps. that tend to stay true to their conservative ranks, many, especially in the current admin. have mutated into creatures of mass destruction called Neo-Cons. But that's nothing we didn't already know ...

To gain power again, the Republicans WILL have to purge themselves of these intruders of their grand ole party.


I dont think the republicans will purge themselves anytime soon. Perhaps after they lose several elections consecutively, but not until then. The neo-cons have a stranglehold on the party and they are very well funded and organized. I watched Pat Buchanan host the Tucker Carlson show last night on MSNBC and they were doing a tribute to Gerald Ford. You could see that it was painful for Buchanan to have to say nice things about Ford.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
rogerr wrote:
rogerr wrote:
Kels wrote:
rogerr wrote:
JesusLopezViejo wrote:
Docsmitter wrote:
rogerr wrote:
PeaceLoveandRockNRoll wrote:
rogerr wrote:
Docsmitter wrote:
rogerr wrote:
Liberal media has nothing to do with it, and I think your response kind of proves my point.


Are you talking sense child? Media has nothing to do with it? THIS HERE MY FRIEND!!! IS A FOrm of media, you get allll your information from media.


Another conservative that simply cannot understand simple english. The media has nothing to do with my views about the hatred spewed by nut job conservatives. You nut jobs at least should make an attempt at honest, but I understand that it is simply not in your make up.


dude, this board has been pretty light on the flaming until very recently. While I see your point, and it would be hard to argue that this website is part of some "liberal media conspiracy," you should really try and keep things more civilized than that. That said, Docsmitter, I think his point is that I don't need to read the New York Times or listen to NPR to think Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are hateful, I just have to listen to THEM.


Unless we liberals are willing to return the neo con fire with even more zeal than that with which it was delivered we will never get our message out. We cannot play by one set of rules while the conservatives play by no rules. We must attack them for what they are. Dishonest, word twisting, bigoted, anti U.S. constitution money grubbers.


Mos tof the so called moderates in the republican party still followed the Dumbya line 90% of the time. The one who didnt, Lincoln Chaffee, got booted and I suspect he will run again, next time as a democrat or independent. I dont think the right wing will allow any moderates th have a significant voice.

Your views Are me left then your crooked dick. I am not argueing that this website is liberal media. I disclaim that you can deny media as having any effect on your views... HAHAHHAH conservative money grabbers! HA HA!!!


This forum is as much unbiased as a forum can possibly be.

The conservative corner is moderated by you, a conservative.

The liberal corner is moderated by punky, a liberal.

The debate forum is modded by a lib and a con.

I myself am a liberal...I think the current administration gives conservatism a bad name.

They are totally off mark on the whole "limited government" issue and are spending billions on a war that is on par with or worse than Vietnam.

I'm sure I could be happier with a competent administration instead of what we have now, whether it is conservative or liberal. But what we got going now is just ridiculous no matter which side of the fence you hail from.


The conservatives of today are nothing like the conservatives of the past. Conservatism is now based upon telling other people how they must comply with the edicts of their christian beliefs. The conservatives of the past believed people should be left alone to form their own decisions on their lives. Conservatism has been hi jacked by religious zealots who are not terribly different than the muslim crazies that the christian crazies are trying to kill.


x20 on the whole conservatives of today spill.
While there are those Reps. that tend to stay true to their conservative ranks, many, especially in the current admin. have mutated into creatures of mass destruction called Neo-Cons. But that's nothing we didn't already know ...

To gain power again, the Republicans WILL have to purge themselves of these intruders of their grand ole party.


I dont think the republicans will purge themselves anytime soon. Perhaps after they lose several elections consecutively, but not until then. The neo-cons have a stranglehold on the party and they are very well funded and organized. I watched Pat Buchanan host the Tucker Carlson show last night on MSNBC and they were doing a tribute to Gerald Ford. You could see that it was painful for Buchanan to have to say nice things about Ford.


quoting a quote that is quoting an other quote and then an other quote is quoting two more quotes and now I'm the last quoter. lol

Anyway...

What are you guys talking about?

This forum is called G.W. BUSH! Not "Talk about some guy called "Pat Buchanan" and "Tucker Carlson" and other random person(Gerald Ford)!

It's kind of annoying when people get off topic. :/

This forum is about -George Walker Bush-(G.W. Bush) not some guys that has nothing to do with the topic.

Just trying to keep this on topic. Don't want an other Off-Topic forum. Also, Even if bush is in Rep. doesnt mean you can talk about random people in the Rep. party.

So... Stay On-Topic.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kels wrote:
Joshua1978 wrote:
exton wrote:
Joshua1978 wrote:
People may not like Bush but at least he wasn't worried about what was under his desk instead of what was on it. Like a certain president we know about.


I'll have you know that bubba did work WHILE getting blowjobs.
(that's not a joke; he really did)

But that's besides the point: no matter who was jacking him off, he did his job, and he did it well. Anything else is irrelevent.

And the degree to which dubya concentrates on his job is highly questionable, to say the least.

Quote:

Also what is up with these Dems calling him a liar all the time.


Well, he is a liar. It's hard to deny that.

Quote:

You know the whole spew about Bush Lied and Children died yada yada. These Dems are attacking Bush for being a liar but there favorite President Clinton lied all the time. All they could do was defend him left and right.


I don't really care who my president fucks while he's in office, and so i don't really care if he lies about it either.

I do, however, care when my president lies about policy decisions. Especially very important policy decisions.
Kinda like war.

Quote:

Also Bush might be wagin a war that people feel is unjust and illegal but you know atleast he wasn't waging a war against American freedom like Clinton and the rest of his cronies did.


Wow. That's...really detached from reality.


Quote:

I would rather have him there than some left-wing socialist biggot anyday. I would rather someone pretend to fight for their country than do nothing at all.


So...the entirety of you case for supporting dubya is based on lies and misleading generalizations about the last president?

Or, put another way, your argument consists entirely of:
"B-b-but clinton!"

That's weak. That's really, really weak.

In fact, i think it qualifies as total failure on your part.


No you fucking dumbass it's called don't throw rocks when your house is made glass. Stop pointing fingers at Bush like he is the first dictator that has ever came to power. Clinton did his share of damage to except he got away with it since people lied for him and yes he did launch a war against his own citizens. Ummm let's see here why don't we have the media make up some bullshit storie about teen violence to push the issue of gun control so we can ban guns.


uhhhh. So, you'd like to compare Clinton backing the ban of semiautomatic assault weapons in say .... '94 to a war on America? How so? If you knew anything about this issue then you wouldn't have even opened your mouth.


Yeah I would. First off read the statistic on gun violence . There are 11,000 murders every year that are gun related compared to the 2.5 million crimes prevented by the presence of a gun. Also the second amendment was set so people would be able to protect themselves from tyranny not to hunt deer. If they can take away fire arms then what's to stop them from taking away any other right and you know they would. It wouldn't stop at assault rifles it would just go right down the line till there were no guns left. Clinton even openly admitted that he would take firearms completely away from the public if he could. As the old saying goe Poloticians like disarmed subjects. So there bub I just opened my mouth again. Assault rifles were just a front that's all it was and that crap at Waco Texas was twisted around from what actually happened. So what next clintonite?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joshua1978 wrote:
Kels wrote:
Joshua1978 wrote:
exton wrote:
Joshua1978 wrote:
People may not like Bush but at least he wasn't worried about what was under his desk instead of what was on it. Like a certain president we know about.


I'll have you know that bubba did work WHILE getting blowjobs.
(that's not a joke; he really did)

But that's besides the point: no matter who was jacking him off, he did his job, and he did it well. Anything else is irrelevent.

And the degree to which dubya concentrates on his job is highly questionable, to say the least.

Quote:

Also what is up with these Dems calling him a liar all the time.


Well, he is a liar. It's hard to deny that.

Quote:

You know the whole spew about Bush Lied and Children died yada yada. These Dems are attacking Bush for being a liar but there favorite President Clinton lied all the time. All they could do was defend him left and right.


I don't really care who my president fucks while he's in office, and so i don't really care if he lies about it either.

I do, however, care when my president lies about policy decisions. Especially very important policy decisions.
Kinda like war.

Quote:

Also Bush might be wagin a war that people feel is unjust and illegal but you know atleast he wasn't waging a war against American freedom like Clinton and the rest of his cronies did.


Wow. That's...really detached from reality.


Quote:

I would rather have him there than some left-wing socialist biggot anyday. I would rather someone pretend to fight for their country than do nothing at all.


So...the entirety of you case for supporting dubya is based on lies and misleading generalizations about the last president?

Or, put another way, your argument consists entirely of:
"B-b-but clinton!"

That's weak. That's really, really weak.

In fact, i think it qualifies as total failure on your part.


No you fucking dumbass it's called don't throw rocks when your house is made glass. Stop pointing fingers at Bush like he is the first dictator that has ever came to power. Clinton did his share of damage to except he got away with it since people lied for him and yes he did launch a war against his own citizens. Ummm let's see here why don't we have the media make up some bullshit storie about teen violence to push the issue of gun control so we can ban guns.


uhhhh. So, you'd like to compare Clinton backing the ban of semiautomatic assault weapons in say .... '94 to a war on America? How so? If you knew anything about this issue then you wouldn't have even opened your mouth.


Yeah I would. First off read the statistic on gun violence . There are 11,000 murders every year that are gun related compared to the 2.5 million crimes prevented by the presence of a gun. Also the second amendment was set so people would be able to protect themselves from tyranny not to hunt deer. If they can take away fire arms then what's to stop them from taking away any other right and you know they would. It wouldn't stop at assault rifles it would just go right down the line till there were no guns left. Clinton even openly admitted that he would take firearms completely away from the public if he could. As the old saying goe Poloticians like disarmed subjects. So there bub I just opened my mouth again. Assault rifles were just a front that's all it was and that crap at Waco Texas was twisted around from what actually happened. So what next clintonite?



Wow, you statistic helped your argument alot! DAMN, you're good!

First, "bub," cite your bullshit. AKA, give me the NRA link. There is absolutely no point to get all pussy hurt because of something that was passed almost 13 years ago. THE BAN ENDED IN 2004!!!! Yes, Im sorry, but I've yet to meet a person who hunts deer with a SAW. Maybe you and your paw missed out on some good times. Shucks. And last I checked Clinton's not in office, and there is no legislation being passed to ban certain firearms right now. So, why did you even say ANYTHING about a ban that's no longer in affect, that does not affect you, and will possibly never again considering that the Democrats lost the House right after it passed. Gun control is as cold as an issue right now in this country as your ability to make it seem important ...

I'm neither a fan of Clinton nor against guns. My family owns more guns than anyone I know. You're argument was just so unintelligable that after throwing up in my mouth a little I thought I should set you straight ... impossible. Don't talk about pointless ancient history and compare it to our present issues.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
JesusLopezViejo wrote:
Docsmitter wrote:
rogerr wrote:
PeaceLoveandRockNRoll wrote:
rogerr wrote:
Docsmitter wrote:
rogerr wrote:
Liberal media has nothing to do with it, and I think your response kind of proves my point.


Are you talking sense child? Media has nothing to do with it? THIS HERE MY FRIEND!!! IS A FOrm of media, you get allll your information from media.


Another conservative that simply cannot understand simple english. The media has nothing to do with my views about the hatred spewed by nut job conservatives. You nut jobs at least should make an attempt at honest, but I understand that it is simply not in your make up.


dude, this board has been pretty light on the flaming until very recently. While I see your point, and it would be hard to argue that this website is part of some "liberal media conspiracy," you should really try and keep things more civilized than that. That said, Docsmitter, I think his point is that I don't need to read the New York Times or listen to NPR to think Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are hateful, I just have to listen to THEM.


Unless we liberals are willing to return the neo con fire with even more zeal than that with which it was delivered we will never get our message out. We cannot play by one set of rules while the conservatives play by no rules. We must attack them for what they are. Dishonest, word twisting, bigoted, anti U.S. constitution money grubbers.


Your views Are me left then your crooked dick. I am not argueing that this website is liberal media. I disclaim that you can deny media as having any effect on your views... HAHAHHAH conservative money grabbers! HA HA!!!


This forum is as much unbiased as a forum can possibly be.

The conservative corner is moderated by you, a conservative.

The liberal corner is moderated by punky, a liberal.

The debate forum is modded by a lib and a con.

I myself am a liberal...I think the current administration gives conservatism a bad name.

They are totally off mark on the whole "limited government" issue and are spending billions on a war that is on par with or worse than Vietnam.

I'm sure I could be happier with a competent administration instead of what we have now, whether it is conservative or liberal. But what we got going now is just ridiculous no matter which side of the fence you hail from.


No this website is biased but everything in life is, each forum has its own bias thats fine. But my POINT is, How can he disclaim media as an influence on his views. THATS a load of crap.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
You do understand that even Bush can't declare war without congress consent... So The President is Kinda A puppet, the governmnet is being shifted to a more direct democracy. Each Term the Prez is loosing power and influence, and so will the next.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Docsmitter wrote:
You do understand that even Bush can't declare war without congress consent... So The President is Kinda A puppet, the governmnet is being shifted to a more direct democracy. Each Term the Prez is loosing power and influence, and so will the next.
Dude, I haven't seen anything about BUSH in like three pages. Joshua, do you have anything to say about our CURRENT president? I'm sure people would be happy to discuss Clinton in his own thread, and then you could hear people's actual opinions as opposed to assuming everyone loved him and making shit up.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
JoeysAngyl wrote:
It's no secret I am a liberal, but don't worry I'm not gonna get mean in here lol. For those of you that say that Bush has done alot of good things for this country outside of the war, could you please specify what those are? Personally I think he has screwed up alot of things for this country, but in the other group that I am in liberals and conservatives just can't seem to get along.


HEY!
He did sign into law the ability to transfer your phone number from carrier to carrier. I give him credit there. Besides that, he has done nothing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
mike920 wrote:

He did sign into law the ability to transfer your phone number from carrier to carrier. I give him credit there. Besides that, he has done nothing.


He doesn't actually deserve credit for that. That was congress' doing.

Now, if bush had a habit of vetoing every other bill that came out of congress, but let this one through, then maybe that would say something.

But bush has only vetoed one bill so far, so i don't think that his discretion on signing bills into law can count as "doing something".
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
heres the thing. i dont totally agree with his policies regaurding all of the constitutional violations. I do agree with the war. The war would be better if the dems could lighten up. send more troops to iraq. thats what i say. search every house and building. look for arms and go after the insurgents
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