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Lester
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well it's just they are attacking you by implication instead of outright.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alright, I'm still not with you on how this is a bad thing or that advertising is destroying the free market. Please 'splain.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Advertising controls the consumer, when the consumer is controlled, the market is not free.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ahh, I have to disagree with you. The consumer allows Advertising to influence them - or not. Advertising does not have the capacity to control people.

If you buy the latest diet program products that you saw on a late night television commercial, did you do that or did the advertising do that?

Free Market means the
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The what!?!? Free market means the what!?!? Fuck don't leave me hanging like thiiis!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
exton wrote:
You think that power consolidation doesn't happen in a free market?

You can certainly compose an idealized world view in which this works, but that world view will not match reality, because it would require throwing out certain characteristics of human nature and of the universe that we live in.

Power consolidation does not happen whre there is free enterprise and competitive markets.
When markets are owned by the state or by corporate monopolies they become cartels and that is when the starve out competition.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Turk wrote:

Power consolidation does not happen whre there is free enterprise and competitive markets.


On what basis do you draw this conclusion? What mechanism of free enterprise and competitive markets prevents power consolidation?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
No really though, free market means the what?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
fellfire wrote:
Turk wrote:

Power consolidation does not happen whre there is free enterprise and competitive markets.


On what basis do you draw this conclusion? What mechanism of free enterprise and competitive markets prevents power consolidation?

Business monopolies and government regulation go hand in hand to stifle the small business keeping the big business rich.
Read the book,
The Big Ripoff how big business and big government work together to steal your money
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Turk wrote:
fellfire wrote:
Turk wrote:

Power consolidation does not happen whre there is free enterprise and competitive markets.


On what basis do you draw this conclusion? What mechanism of free enterprise and competitive markets prevents power consolidation?

Business monopolies and government regulation go hand in hand to stifle the small business keeping the big business rich.


SO such things as SBIRs and small buisiness set aside project stifle small business? So big business Venture backing stifles small business?

What monopoly are you refering to here? or do you consider ALL "big business" in cahoots and thus its one big monopoly?

While you are pondering those questions maybe you can answer mine?

fellfire wrote:
What mechanism of free enterprise and competitive markets prevents power consolidation?



Turk wrote:
Read the book,
The Big Ripoff how big business and big government work together to steal your money


The ripoff here is that you wasted your time and/or money filling the pocket of some shill who wrote a book. It wasn't big business and big government that took you for a ride, it was some small business author selling a snake-oil conspiracy theory.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Really conspiracy theories?
Please dare to explain why Big Business lobbyists, and big oil company lobbyists have purchased congressmen, judges, high flying lawyers justify fleecing the taxpayer with nothing to show for it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Really conspiracy theories?
Please dare to explain why Big Business lobbyists, and big oil company lobbyists have purchased congressmen, judges, high flying lawyers justify fleecing the taxpayer with nothing to show for it.


So are you saying that your definition of business monopolies is "Big Business lobbyists, and big oil company lobbyists". Are you going to answer the question? or just keep changing the word usage with each post?

fellfire wrote:
What mechanism of free enterprise and competitive markets prevents power consolidation?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Turk wrote:
Really conspiracy theories?
Please dare to explain why Big Business lobbyists, and big oil company lobbyists have purchased congressmen, judges, high flying lawyers justify fleecing the taxpayer with nothing to show for it.


Greed. Have you been in this world long or did your spaceship just land?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
fellfire wrote:
Turk wrote:
Really conspiracy theories?
Please dare to explain why Big Business lobbyists, and big oil company lobbyists have purchased congressmen, judges, high flying lawyers justify fleecing the taxpayer with nothing to show for it.


Greed. Have you been in this world long or did your spaceship just land?

Your forgot consolidation of power and wealth.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Are you going to answer the question?
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