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Vinces
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: you must have know I would say ...... Reply with quote
If your a evolutionist carbon dating supports your theory of the earths age.

If your a creationist it actually supports the Bible because the flood of Genesis and the climate and atmosphere before and after as described in the Bible would definately skew the results. Did you know that the Bible says that until just before the flood it did not rain? There was a mist that rose from the ground. Some Christians believe that the globe was created with a layer of ice between the atmosphere and space that created a green house effect and made the whole world a temperate climate. There is alot of scientific evidence to support this. Even the frozen water at the poles is evidence of the global flood of genesis. The spinning of the Earth gradually caused the flood to move towards the poles where it began to freeze.

But I am assuming you do not believe the Genesis flood story?
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Toxic
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: you must have know I would say ...... Reply with quote
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If your a creationist it actually supports the Bible because the flood of Genesis and the climate and atmosphere before and after as described in the Bible would definately skew the results.


How so?

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Did you know that the Bible says that until just before the flood it did not rain?


I'm sure that's absolutely true. /sarcasm

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There is alot of scientific evidence to support this.


I'd like to see just a sliver of it.

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The spinning of the Earth gradually caused the flood to move towards the poles where it began to freeze.


It doesn't work that way due to gravity. Boats that float in the ocean for a very long time don't drift towards the poles, and neither do continents that have been around for quite a very long time.

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But I am assuming you do not believe the Genesis flood story?


I don't believe it like I don't believe any other religion's Great Flood story, of which there are lots of them. I especially don't believe the Christian one because they load it up with the bogus idea of putting two of each on an ark.
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exton
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Re: you must have know I would say ...... Reply with quote
Vinces wrote:
If your a evolutionist carbon dating supports your theory of the earths age.


No, it doesn't. Carbon dating is only accurate to about 60,000 years.

Other kinds of radiometric dating are used to determine the age of the earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.....techniques

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If your a creationist it actually supports the Bible because the flood of Genesis and the climate and atmosphere before and after as described in the Bible would definately skew the results.


If you're going to throw around the flood, then there's no point in discussing evidence at all; a global flood, of the sort described in the bible, is purely a miraculous event. It has no basis in sensible, physical reality.

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Did you know that the Bible says that until just before the flood it did not rain? There was a mist that rose from the ground. Some Christians believe that the globe was created with a layer of ice between the atmosphere and space that created a green house effect and made the whole world a temperate climate.


Same deal again. You can make up anything you want, but when you start doing that, the idea of basing your beliefs on "evidence" becomes irrelevent.

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There is alot of scientific evidence to support this.


There isn't a single iota of physical evidence that supports that.
If you disagree, i'd like you to describe this evidence.

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Even the frozen water at the poles is evidence of the global flood of genesis. The spinning of the Earth gradually caused the flood to move towards the poles where it began to freeze.


No, that doesn't make any sense at all. The distribution of water on the planet's surface has to do with the geography of the surface, not the planet's spin. The force due to spinning is very small relative to the force due to gravity.

And even then, the force due to spinning would cause things to move towards the equator, not the poles. But, like i said, that doesn't matter; that force is very small relative to the force due to gravity.
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imnotbncre8ive
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Did you know that the Bible says that until just before the flood it did not rain? There was a mist that rose from the ground. Some Christians believe that the globe was created with a layer of ice between the atmosphere and space that created a green house effect and made the whole world a temperate climate.


Did you know that Ron Hubbard told Scientologists that Xenu, dictator of the Galactic Confederacy 75 million years ago, brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft eerily similar to DC-8 airliners. He then stacked them around volcanoes and detonated thermonuclear bombs. Why? Because his mother had butterfingers and dropped him a lot. He often complained of being harassed in online games like Counterstrike, and nobody wanted him on their chess teams.

There is even more scientific evidence to support this. We at least know exactly who wrote about this stuff: L. Ron Hubbard. I hope you see the light and undertake the journey to become an Operating Thetan.[/quote]
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imnotbncre8ive
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
As to whether a global flood occurred, you may find this illuminating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjFeVwuJB7I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvprBLhJx_o

Why bother with just Flood? We might as well regress to several centuries ago and claim that the world is flat.
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