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EVIL D
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: ARE YOU MILITANT Reply with quote
I am and have been many things in my life, good, bad, evil... top of the list, I am an American. To be the American I want to be I've pretended to be something, to try it out and I've committed to being other things 100%. It makes each human who they are if you are truly free. In America it's how we roll.

Some people expect to be treated like something they are not and most tolerate what they have become, just whine about it and not try something new... pussies, cowards and leftists.

Being militant is easy when it comes to being an American citizen, cause freedom makes us so... at all costs, being free is the only option. Without our freedom we are not Americans, that is why Americans fight and die for it. Real Americans will fight for others freedom, cause we are Americans and it's what we do!

Are you truly free or just free enough, will you fight for your freedom and continue to earn it, since it is never free for long! There are too many who always expect to be free, they know nothing else... times are a changing, freedom is truly threatened.

USING FREEDOM TO REMAIN FREE, EVIL D.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: ARE YOU MILITANT Reply with quote
There's a line from a Billy Bragg song (I think it's "North Sea Bubble") that goes,

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"As long as you're comfortable, it feels like freedom."

Who cares if the government dictates what I can or can't earn as long as I'm comfortable?

Who cares if the government dictates who I can or can't marry as long as I'm comfortable?

Who cares if the government dictates what I can or can't drive as long as I'm comfortable?

Who cares if the government dictates what guns I can or can't own as long as I'm comfortable?


Most people don't care until their personal idea of what is "comfortable" is at odds with the government's definition of "comfortable." Then they suddenly care; but then it's usually too late.
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EVIL D
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Governments change and if they change too much, I hope the people have enough sense as Americans to stop it. I can still say, guns are cool, without being arrested, we aren't that F-ed yet.

Communisim Part 2 is coming to a street corner, blog and forum near you! Some Americans will go too far... Power to the corporate masters and $$$ making intrests!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
EVIL D wrote:
Communisim Part 2 is coming to a street corner, blog and forum near you! Some Americans will go too far... Power to the corporate masters and $$$ making intrests!


Now I am convinced. What you say is simply for shock value. I am sure it is how you compensate for a small penis or an abused childhood. Not unlike Man Cunter. If you are ready for WW3 then you are in the correct line of work. Because that is where this is all headed.

By communism do you mean The Red Chinese, yeah, remember them? No I guess you would be too young to remember that. How many soldiers died in Vietnam and Korea, fighting the dreaded "Red Chinese"? Do you think that they would approve of our alliance with them? By corporate masters, do you mean companies like ITT, who was just found guilty of selling China all of our night vision technologies?

I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -Albert Einstein

Hope you enloy prolonged MOPP Level 4, young man.
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EVIL D
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Talking point, blah,blah and blah. Reply with quote
You look comfortable in red...

Wow, I have a corporate master, gee I better head to Wal-Mart and buy some crap.

There sure are a lot of pediphiles cruising this forum for 14 year olds and small penis. I only joined yesterday and I've been hit on by 2 liberals already, fucking cowards.
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Xerxes
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Talking point, blah,blah and blah. Reply with quote
EVIL D wrote:
Wow, I have a corporate master, gee I better head to Wal-Mart and buy some crap.


The only problem with that argument is that you would have to go to China. Speak Mandarin? And yes, I do live in a "Red" state.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
EVIL D wrote:
Governments change and if they change too much, I hope the people have enough sense as Americans to stop it.

Here's a good quote on that thought...
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage." - Alexander Tyler
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Xerxes
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage." - Alexander Tyler


Profound words, indeed! I think that we already have the collective big orange bondage ball in our mouths now?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
EVIL D wrote:
Governments change and if they change too much, I hope the people have enough sense as Americans to stop it. I can still say, guns are cool, without being arrested, we aren't that F-ed yet.

Communisim Part 2 is coming to a street corner, blog and forum near you! Some Americans will go too far... Power to the corporate masters and $$$ making intrests!


Why do people see communism as totalitarianism?
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EVIL D
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The communism bit is directed at some of the dip-shits who repeatedly use commie "talking points" on their posts. You know the "useful idiots".
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
communism is seen as totalitarianism because that is what it is, the whole idea is that the "prolitariot" will atain justice when and only when they violently overthrow the "bourgeois." socialism is similar but it does not believe that a violent over throw is necessary, rather that society can be changed from the inside. Communism is far too cynical to trust anyone and there keeps its populus under control. China is different, they aren't really communist, they have allowed for economic freedom, as long as party rule is not challenged, they are authoritarian.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Left wingers = evil communists

Right wingers = pyschotic religious nuts

hmm who to choose?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
chevydriver1123 wrote:
Left wingers = evil communists

Right wingers = pyschotic religious nuts

hmm who to choose?

I realize you are poking fun at these labels, but I want to use your comments as a jumping off point for some thoughts on how often these labels get thrown around in lieu of any actual argument.

I find it more useful to just consider the value of an individual's stated position on the issue at hand, rather than shoving them into boxes with labels. Try to label me based on my opinion on this issue or that, and you'll think me a right-wing nut-job or a pinko-leftist fag; which makes the labels meaningless. The reality is that most people are like that; conservative on some issues and liberal on others, so why not toss out the labels and just debate the issues civilly?

Unless the goal is to just get off on flaming people, we learn a lot more and get a lot more out of these discussions if we simply consider the points the other person makes, and leave off trying to label him or her. In the end, it doesn't matter whether I'm a rabid Bushie or a granola munching bed-wetter; are my arguments sound or do you find them lacking? That ought to be the focus.
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rynln53
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
you are absolutely correct.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would like to turn to history for proof of failure of communism and similar systems...
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