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Johnguitars
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jusdeadphunky wrote:
timmytuite wrote:
no one pays attention to history anymore... only rhetoric. The jews made the rules up as they went along, and we went along with 'em without any persuasion. and now the friggin right wing religious loonies have the whole situation wrapped up in their own backward ass vision of the rapture. Bush and his cronies cant wait for world war three...its bible prophecy apparently


i love how the rapture is not even a story from the bible and these people are all about making it come true.


I don't want to get off topic but The Rapture is mentioned by Paul in 1st Thessalonians 4:13-18 and by Jesus in Matthew 24:36-44 although he does not use the term Rapture.

There are some Christians who believe that they can hurry things along but I would hold that God is sovereign and not to be used by any poitician.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Johnguitars wrote:

There are some Christians who believe that they can hurry things along but I would hold that God is sovereign and not to be used by any poitician.


More to the point, i think god disapproves of people making war in general.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not really, he enjoys a good dollop of wrath every once in a while.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shh, im trying to play the "loving god" angle!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm a fan of the hellfire and brimstone, I just love the smell.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Israel Is Illegally Occupying Palestine

actually no. they were given all of Jordan and all of the land between the Jordan and the Med Sea. The UN is a farce.


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2 Israel Systematically Violates the Human Rights of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories

well no surprise there. we violated a lot of human rights when we were trying to stop Hitler and the Japs too. sorta inevitable when you are up against terrorists. who are the real human rights abusers tho? Israel or Palestinians? where are gays treated better......in Israel or Palestine?



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3 Israel is an Apartheid State

yes and the Palestinian territories are models of civil rights and equality of opportunity. pathetic. libs are the blindest people in existence.


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5 US Military Aid to Israel threatens US Security and Global Stability

so should we let the Arab animals around Israel just swallow Israel? does Israel have the right to exist? what if Mexico took California........would you recognize the US's right to defend itself? why not Israel?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Israel Is Illegally Occupying Palestine

actually no. they were given all of Jordan and all of the land between the Jordan and the Med Sea. The UN is a farce.


Haha. Given that land by whom?

Not by the people who live there.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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where are gays treated better......in Israel or Palestine?



Why do you care who's treating them better they both get treated bad by orthodx jews who run isreal and the extremist Sunni's and Shiite's are killing the homosexual community. Hell the only safe place for them in the middle east was the secular government of Iraq under Saddam. But why are we worrying about gay rights abroad when we can't get then here.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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2 Israel Systematically Violates the Human Rights of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories

well no surprise there. we violated a lot of human rights when we were trying to stop Hitler and the Japs too. sorta inevitable when you are up against terrorists. who are the real human rights abusers tho? Israel or Palestinians? where are gays treated better......in Israel or Palestine?


are you fucking kidding me? comparing the palestinians to hitler and the japanese. shows how fucking ignorant and historically deficient you are. how about you take a look at how the violence between israel and palestine began. burning villages is real righteous. turn off the faux news and think for yourself before making absurd statements.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
the japs?? keep it clean.
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jusdeadphunky
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
the japs?? keep it clean.


no, no...it is cool...just another example about how he is an ignorant racist jackass.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I didn't notice that he said, I thought it was just you, I was like, ummmm, ok...

Not that I think it's ok that cornopean said it at all.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Re: 5 reasons why israel should not be supported Reply with quote
[quote="jusdeadphunky"]
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Mussolini wrote:
5 reasons why Israel shouldn't be supported


You forgot the fact that Congress is not authorized by the Constitution to donate OUR tax dollars to foreign countries.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: Re: 5 reasons why israel should not be supported Reply with quote
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jusdeadphunky wrote:
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5 reasons why Israel shouldn't be supported


You forgot the fact that Congress is not authorized by the Constitution to donate OUR tax dollars to foreign countries.


good point.

our currency is not authorized to be controlled by a private corporation either.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 5 reasons why israel should not be supported Reply with quote
[quote="jusdeadphunky"]
G-Max wrote:
jusdeadphunky wrote:
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Mussolini wrote:
5 reasons why Israel shouldn't be supported


You forgot the fact that Congress is not authorized by the Constitution to donate OUR tax dollars to foreign countries.


good point.

our currency is not authorized to be controlled by a private corporation either.


Excellent point. And, as the Fed is a private corporation, perhaps we the American people should take up a collection and buy it. Then we can refuse to print more money for the government to borrow. Wink

Sorry - an attack of whimsy. They come and go...

Re: Israel

Here's a really good reason to stop 'supporting' them. Oddly enough, it was given over a hundred years before Israel was even a nation. From John Quncy Adams, in 1821:

And now, friends and countrymen, if the wise and learned philosophers of the elder world, the first observers of nutation and aberration, the discoverers of maddening ether and invisible planets, the inventors of Congreve rockets and Shrapnel shells, should find their hearts disposed to enquire what has America done for the benefit of mankind?

Let our answer be this: America, with the same voice which spoke herself into existence as a nation, proclaimed to mankind the inextinguishable rights of human nature, and the only lawful foundations of government. America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity.

She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights.

She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own.

She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart. She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right. Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.

She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.

She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.

She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force....

She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....

[ America's] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice.
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